Thread:Sophie Floyd/@comment-937287-20140210121735/@comment-937287-20140210125847

I am also going to argue that on the Pathevia trivia, the Japanese name was almost certainly taken directly from the Old Persian name, and not possibly from Latin (as the wording of your sentence seems to imply is possible). The Old Persian name is almost a perfect match, while the Latin name is missing a "va" syllable. The chance of the mangaka picking the Latin name and, by pure coincidence, choses to add a "va" syllable, which makes the name almost perfectly match the actual Old Persian name, is very very unlikely.

Also, for Alma Torran's trivia, I definately understand why you removed the 4th translation "root", but that is actually the most fundemental meaning of that word. It originally meant a physical root, like a plant root or tooth root. The concept of source, origin, begining, etc derived from that meaning, so I think it is a good idea to include that translation. You also, quite frankly, totally screwed up the translation when the two Arabic words are combined.

Also, for Serendine, the Turkish name "Seren" is not close enough to be mentioned I think. If anthing should be mentioned, it should be "Serendip" or "Serenade" perhaps (although I highly doubt any of these are the source. The royal familly names seem to be purposefully verbose)

On Dunya's page, you make the claim that her name was based on Dunyazade. I see no evidence to believe that. First off, Dunyazad is derived from "Dunya" + "zad". Second, the word "Dunya" is a Arabic name in real life, so there is no reason to not think that her name is just from the real life name. Third, she is, storywise or personalty-wise, not close to Dunyazade at all. Fourth, all names so far have been taken totally intact from the "Thousand and One Nights" story. Having Dunyazad's name been changed to just "Dunya" would break that consistancy.

With Morgiana, you removed the Arabic transliteration "Marjāna(t)". This is important, as it is Morgiana's actual Arabic name. It derives from the Arabic word for coral (Marjān ) as said in her Trivia section, but it is  Marjāna(t), not Marjān, that is her name.

On Razol's page, your edit is potentially misleading. I originally said Her name might derive from the Persian noun  رذل   Razol  (itself derived from the Arabic adjective  رذل Radhl   "vile/despicable/mean/etc" ), which means  "scoundrel" or "rapscallion" . , but you changed it to  Her name might derive from the Persian noun Razol ( رذل), itself derived from the Arabic adjective Radhl  (رذل <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">), which means  <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">Scoundrel <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">. Your version seems to/could imply that the Arabic word also means "scoundrel", which it does not. The Arabic word is an adjective that has a meaning semantically related, but not equivalent, to the Persian word it spawned, which is a noun with a slightly different meaning. If you did not mean this implication, I think the sentence has to be more clear.

.......and I think that covers everthing. I'd like to make sure you understand all these revert/changes I am proposing so that my reverts are not themselves reverted. At least in the case of Trivia, especially etymology trivia (which is my forte on this wiki), I'd advise you to please don't make any formating, transliteration, or significant content changes, at least not without consulting someone like me (in the case of etymology, ESPECIALLY ME) or someone else. For example, I have been using the proper Arabic transliteration notation of writing the Arabic letter  ع   as 3 and I have been using macrons to show Arabic long vowel. You have been removing them, like in the Alma Torran article, where my original  <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">" <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">Alma <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">" <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);"> is either a corruption of the Arabic word  <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">3ālam <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">  <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">عالَم, meaning  <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">" <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">World <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(255,255,170);">" has been changed to  <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">Alma is either a corruption of the Arabic word  <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">Alam <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">  <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">( <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">عالَم <span class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="font-weight:bold;color:red;white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">) <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">, meaning  <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11.818181991577148px;background-color:rgb(204,255,204);">World , among other issues and "ruining" the uniform formating that I had for the wiki etymologies. So please consult first, otherwise refrain from the trivia (etymology) edits (but ADDING things is fine though).